[Lie] Angle

Phoenix, Tempe, Scottsdale, Arizona Golf Lessons & Coaching Update: Monday, April 19, 2010

lie angle machine Within the last two weeks I tested two iron sets for lie angle for two of my pupils. The first test revealed a lie angle change of 3 degrees to be bent upright. The second set revealed a need to change the lie angles 4 degrees flat. I recommended to my first student to go to Golfsmith and have someone there test and bend accordingly. The Golfsmith rep. said that my student’s clubs were “ok,” and that I [his coach] did not know what I was talking about. So my student left with no need to bend his clubs, according to Golfsmith.

Upon hearing this, I recommend another golf shop, and that was AZ Golfworks in Tempe. AZ Golfworks bent my student’s irons 2 degrees upright. The change was necessary due to my initial lie angle test . I will test again to see if 1 degree [more] upright is necessary.

My second test was done after my student bought a brand new set of Adams Idea a70S hybrids & irons from Golfsmith, per my recommendation. Prior to my student’s purchase, I asked the Goldsmith rep. to test for lie angle; because I knew the clubs were too upright for him. During testing, I asked the rep. if the clubs can be bent at no cost, and he said yes. After test, the Golfsmith rep. said that his irons were “ok,” and that working with me on his swing will take care of his clubs. What?

Lesson learned: I will be bending my students clubs myself. In my opinion: I will be using the golf industry’s best loft and lie machine by Mitchell Golf. Looking back, I don’t know if it was just plain laziness by the Golfsmith reps., or lack of club-fitting knowledge.

Note: lie angle – The angle formed between the shaft plane and the horizontal face plane (attitude). Lie is the most important factor for initial ball flight direction. If the lie angle is incorrect, then the golfer with a “square face” at impact will not see the ball fly straight to her target. Also, check your golf club’s manufacture’s tolerance for how many degrees [+] or [-] you can bend.

Better Golf,
Robbie Camacho
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